Ya know ya follow bands, he/she joins them, leaves, joins others, goes solo, blah blah blah! My (then) teenaged son introduced me to TOOL, A PERFECT CIRCLE, went to ALL the local (NZ) concerts (middle aged 53 yo), followed on to ASHES DIVIDE based on The Stone. I was disappointed, sounded like a local nasaly Kiwi band … paalleeze … Gave it a little time, gave Howerdel the benefit … LOVE IT!! “Denial Waits”, just stunning, the opposite beat (don't know what you cal it?), “Forever Can Be” … just superb! I'm a loyal follower.