Susan Gillis Chapman is a retired family therapist (LMFT) who has been studying, practicing, and teaching mindfulness and compassion meditation for over forty years. She was introduced to contemplative prayer in a Catholic convent school and in 1974 transitioned into studying Buddhism with her teacher, Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. With a master's degree in Buddhist and Western psychology, she worked in the field of domestic violence intervention in addition to her private counseling practice. To deepen her spiritual training, she spent nine years in retreat and also completed a three-year retreat program at Gampo Abbey with her mentor, Pema Chodron. She is the author of The Five Keys to Mindful Communication and founder of Green Light Conversations. Dina Pearlman was raised in Teaneck, New Jersey, and went on to attend Carnegie Mellon University. Based in New York City, this actress, stand-up comic, and Audie Award-nominated narrator of over 300 audiobooks is best known for her appearances in Sex and the City (as Ruby Rosen, jeweler extraordinaire) and several Spike Lee films, notably Bamboozled in the role of slick network TV consultant Myrna Goldfarb. In HBO's Bad Education, Dina portrayed Wendy, a member of the doomed Roslyn Board of Ed frantically attempting to cover up missing funds, and Gina in Bo Burnham's Eighth Grade, a sun-block-obsessed mom pulling partygoers aside to apply and re-apply. Dina is recurring on The Good Fight Season 5 as the lawsuit-averse rule-follower Katherine from Human Resources.